Let's hear predictions on who will be chosen.

While I don't think it will be Hillary nor do I want her to be on the ticket, there's still a part of me that says she adds more strength to the ticket than any other possible VP candidate.

I'm thinking Bill Richardson, Tim Kaine or Evan Bayh would be a good match.

The Clintons lately haven't exactly been effusive in their praise for Obama. While supposedly supporting him publicly (Hillary even had a rally for him in Nevada last week), their actual words don't seem like those of genuine support. They seem extremely carefully chosen and nuanced, as if they aren't ready to embrace him yet but know they need to sound positive about him in public to save face.

So I can't think of a better way to get both Clintons on board than to pick her as VP.

But I too doubt it will be Hillary. There are problems with the other choices as well.

Richardson means a radical new ticket for Middle America to accept. Two non-white people on the ticket? Not to be racist, but I think Obama desperately needs votes from Middle America to win. A Bayh or Kaine is a much better fit in that regard. Bayh is also very experienced in foreign affairs, but he was also a strong supporter of the Iraq war, which seems like an odd choice for a running mate given Obama's claim that he opposed Iraq all along. So Obama can't really criticize McCain for Iraq if his own running mate was just as hawkish.

Kaine is not much more experienced in national affairs than Obama, but politically he is a great choice.

Andrew

The only issue with Bayh is that his Senate seat would be replaced with a Republican.

Richardson would be great.....background being in Clinton's cabinet and Governor experience too...and very solid....not a limelight stealer. Hispanic aspect doesn't hurt either.

Clark is still on many of the pundit's short lists.

Clark should be on their lists. A senior military man and a friend of the Clintons...

Andrew

Biden.

neil goldschmidt

Adding Bill Richardson to the ticket would make who I am voting for even more of a slam-dunk. It's a pick that would make a LOT of sense:

-Obviously, it would help draw Hispanic votes to the ticket.
-It might help Obama in the Southwest, where McCain is obviously going to be solid.
-Richardson would be an excellent person to have on the team as far as foreign policy and the inner workings of the White House. The transition would be a lot more seamless for Obama.
-Richardson would probably help draw more of the moderate votes that might otherwise swing to the McCain camp, he would be a good balance for Obama, who is much more liberal.
-Unlike John Edwards and Hillary Clinton and others, Richardson's integrity won't be dragged through the mud. Unquestionable character here.

No, Goldschmidt was going to be Edward's VP.

(sorry, that was below the belt - literally)

This would be my short list of those to vet out:

Joe Biden
Bill Richardson
Tim Kaine
Hillary Clinton (she wouldn't except however)
Wesley Clarke
Gen. Colin Powell (so what if he's a republican)
and just because were Oregonians
Ron Wyden

McCain.

I would be thrilled if Wyden is nominated, but I just don't see it happening. He's not a national figure, and Oregon is not on the map in terms of national politics. And Oregon is already a blue state so it does nothing to help Obama.

Anyway, I saw Wyden on NW 21st avenue the other night, getting into his car; I made eye contact and he waved to me, so I waved back. He never mentioned the VP thing to me, although I admit I didn't have a chance to ask...

Andrew

"I saw Wyden on NW 21st avenue the other night, getting into his car; I made eye contact and he waved to me, so I waved back."

Damn, you missed out on a chance to get a pdxradio exclusive!


My current choice: Biden.

Heard that Obama is going to do a cell phone mass text announcing his Vip...

Yep.

Announcing to his supporters first, and getting them ready for later messaging is another well executed campaign strategy of his.

the one person who could turn it into a demo landslide would be if Bill Clinton was the VP choice. IMO.Too much bad blood for hilary to be the choice.

You heard it here first: Hillary Clinton will be Obama's VP and it will be announced tomorrow.

I've heard Daschle mentioned a couple times also. Hmmmmm...

Tom Daschle, the Senate minority leader who couldn't even hold his own Senate seat? Not a chance in hell. You don't want a guy who lost a huge election only four years ago dragging down your ticket.

Joe Biden is my guess. The youthful Obama needs a wiseman, an establishment White Guy with credentials, to balance his ticket. Biden may put his foot in his mouth every once in a while, but he's a really sharp guy who knows all the people McCain knows and more. Biden sounds like a down-to-earth guy you could easily imagine stepping into the presidency. Look at Biden in the Cheney-Bush model, in some sense.

Andrew

Biden.

I want Richardson, but I expect it to be Biden. Either way, I'm ok. I think Richardson would help more in the election.

Obama-Kennedy

that's Caroline Kennedy

Now that would be awesome!

Perhaps it will be someone named Fraud. So the Ticket would be "Obama/Fraud."
This would work well if McCain chooses someone named Treason, so that reads "McCain/Treason!"

BTW, this website gives many of the other choices beyond the "big box candidates" (no I didn't vote for Mary Starrett in the 2006 Oregon Gubernatorial Election, but I like that saying):

http://politics1.com/p2008.htm

vitalogy sez: "You heard it here first: Hillary Clinton will be Obama's VP and it will be announced tomorrow [Thursday]."

tick, tick, tick . . . 55 minutes to go.

Looks like it will now be Sat.

http://politics1.com/p2008.htm

whats funny is that all the independent parties have their VP's all picked!

CNN keeps saying this morning that its gonna happen in a matter of minutes.

I'm eagerly awaiting but somehow I don't think its going to be announced till tommorrow morning.

Yes, it is now 3:45 on the east coast on a summer Friday afternoon. My guess is a Saturday announcement.

Politico is reporting that Hillary wasn't even vetted. Ouch! I didn't think there was that much bad blood between the two. Infact I had thought that it was more of a one sided thing with Hillary's supporters being the ones who were bitter not the campaign itself. Could make for an interesting convention.

Why would Hillary even need to be vetted? She's been a public figure since 1992, investigated by Ken Starr and a dozen tabloids. If she wanted the job, surely all Obama would need to do is work out with her what's in her job description, not "vet" her.

Andrew

Chet Edwards, a rep. from Bush's Texas district, is getting last minute mention.

According to reports, for better or worse, he's Pelosi's favorite for the position.

I heard they are considering Chet Edwards to save money. Seems that Obama had been planning to pick John Edwards but, of course, that doesn't work anymore. But the Obama campaign has a whole warehouse full of Obama-Edwards t-shirts and bumper stickers...

Andrew

What a potential PR disaster that would be for those shirts and or bumper stickers get out there. I am sure though that eventually some will and then what a collectible.

So MSNBC is reporting that Kaine and Bayh have both been informed its not them. Very interesting. A company that makes bumper stickers is making stikers with Obama-Bayh on them. And the latest on the text message is Saturday morning.

I am still hoping for a complete surprise. Like Clarke, or Powell (who says it can't be a mixed ticket?)

The suspence is finally over. Obama chose Joseph Biden as his running mate. Wow!

AP/NBC/FOXnews tonight says Biden...hey...where's my phone text...?

hey Digital...we tied on the breaking news...

Obama/Biden: The Insufficient and the Insufferable

Hmm . . . not a word on Google news yet.

DD and Broadway as the only sources? I'll need more than this before I pop the campaign bottle -- McCain is finished if Biden is selected.

CNN, Fox and the Keith Olbermann Network (also called MSNBC)

Keith Olbermann Network

You made me wade through muck only to find that you didn't bother posting a link either. Campaign bottle still unpopped.

All the news channels are reporting it. I'm glad. I like Biden. I think they make a great team.

this just in . . .

Biden is selected as Obama's running mate:

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/08/if_its_obamabiden_this_is.p hp

Why post a link when you can see it on the cable channels?

Straight talk from Joe Biden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuOkXgZqofA

Because a fair number of us don't watch the cable channels.

(myself included)

Why post a link when you can see it on the cable channels?

And some of us don't even have cable!

(There's a whole other world out there DD. Take off your Republi . . . I mean rose-colored glasses and you'll find people that don't get their news from TV and can think for themselves without prompts from O'Rielly, Hannity, and yes, even Keith Olbermann.)

I love Biden. I think I predicted way back when that he would be the presidential nominee. Maybe I was off by only one position.

When you watch that YouTube video, you have to ask: how come this guy's candidacy never took off in 2008?

(Gotta love what he says about Rudy Giuliani in the clip above as well.)

Andrew

I don't have cable either...

Andrew

Cork is popped! Obama has his own personal swiftboater with 30 years of Senate experience ready to return fire if junior Senator McCain decides to sling some mud.

I've been in favor of Obama since before he announced he was running, however, I really liked Biden during the debates. In a way I'm relieved it's not Hillary.

Biden. I like him. He's WAY smarter than me.

I have tons of other thoughts on the matter. But I am excited.

"IF junior Senator McCain decides to sling some mud."

I think that ship sailed a few weeks back.

This is good!
Biden is very good at giving voice to those of us who are outraged over the events of the past eight years.

Soon I will be buying my bottle of election night celebratory champagne. And unlike 2004 I will crack this bottle on election night when the projections come in with a Obama/Biden victory rather than New Years Eve.

Vueve Cliquot NV anyone?

Good call!

Like Biden a lot, and think he's about as solid of a pick as there is.

Here's to hoping Shyguy!

I love Joe, but here's hoping he doesn't stick his foot in his mouth too many times. The guy has the potential to be Tonight Show comedy fodor if he's not carful...

Andrew

Obama/Biden victory.

It's over. McCain is sunk unless he can get Jesus Christ himself to come down from heaven and run with him.

He has to be getting the Obama message control lecture right now, as we talk about it.

Sen. Biden says Indians are the fastest growing immigrant group in Delaware.

"You CANNOT go into a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts without an Indian accent."

What does that have to do with an Obama/Biden ticket putting the hurt on McCain and whatever dried up prune Republican that can be dug up to run with the fossil?

Come on DD like you have never had foot in mouth syndrome before?

We all let things slip out of our mouths before actually thinking about what was just said from time to time. SHIT HAPPENS!

one word:

"Bushism"

>>unless he can get Jesus Christ himself

God helping the right...I like that...

It aint gonna happen. The last time God loaned someone talent we got Rush. He ain't making that mistake again.

I just get the feeling He is going to pick Biden.

I might be wrong. As for Hill/Bill, they may campaign for Obama, but their hearts sure aren't in it. Her speeches seem constrained and lack any sort of passion.

DID YA KNOW: McCains daddy was the first Air commander at Guadalcanal before he joined MacArthurs staff? Means nothing, just a trivial little WWII factoid...................

Here's another factoid: Biden's son is on his way over to Iraq.

The running mate doesn't really help the nominee of either party very much.

Remember the 1988 election? Dukakis chose a much better running mate than the first Bush. Dukakis still lost.

The choice of running mate can be extremely helpful. In 1992, Bill Clinton's choice of Al Gore was seen as inspired and unconventional (since Gore was also from a southern state and much like him, at least on the surface) and gave an instant boost to his ticket that Clinton never lost. George W. Bush's choice of Cheney in 2000 was pretty much what Biden is to Obama: an experienced hand to reassure voters that the combined ticket is solid to take over the presidency. Cheney instantly added stature to Bush, as Biden instantly adds stature to Obama.

1988 isn't a good example, because Dukakis wasn't a good candidate and got run over by the Lee Atwater sleaze mobile. And anyone who can't react with genuine outrage when Bernard Shaw asks you if you would want to kill the person who raped and murdered your wife...isn't going to convince middle America to vote for him. A good candidate - a Bill Clinton - could have beaten Bush that year, and Quayle would have made Bush much more vulnerable.

Andrew

DD said - " The running mate doesn't really help the nominee of either party very much."

LOL. I know. I fall into the same trap each election; The VP will make a difference in the actual administration - not just the election. And before Cheney, I think that was pretty much true. I'm not saying that VPs have no influence. I just wish they had more. And I think that's what most people vote for or hope for in a VP.

So, we'll see, I guess. Biden is a good pick IF he is utilized.

And I admit, I don't know much about Biden longer than 20 years ago. And yes, he'll get some hammering from The Republicans. But who wouldn't have gotten some heat from the Republicans? ( Again, that's not a rhetorical question ).

So now it's on to McCain and his pick. Romney is the only one I know a little about. And I KNOW I do not like him one bit. Bad JuJu with that guy, for me. The other(s) that may be in contention? well, I don't pretend to know who would be best. I just hope it's not Romney. And I hope that because if McCain does win with Romney on the ticket, I really don't like Romney's platforms and stances on issues and general sleeziness. ( the latter feeling is purely a gut feeling. Ignoring it would be stupid ).

Then again, I do not expect Republicans to cater to my desires on matters like this.

So be it.

America is pretty awesome.

Biden says Obama is not ready to be president.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1umkUlfGes

Yeah. I disagree with that.

Now that Obama has picked an experienced, respected US Senator as his VP, I say Obama is now ready to be president. No doubt Joe would agree.

Andrew

With all the overzealous, bigoted, holier-than-thou radical evangelical radicals on the right McCain has his job for picking a veep cut out for him. Let's see would the above mentioned demo embrace a Mormon? nope Would the above mentioned demo embrace a Jew? nope, I feel for McCain, wait no I don't. Because.. McCain has dug his own grave long ago for now employing and embracing the same creeps that said he had an illegitimate black child.

DD, Broadway, Herb, Deane care to comment?

One can be sure that vice President Biden won't be conducting secret energy policy meetings with industry bigwigs.

....Biden's son is on his way over to Iraq.

BIG DEAL! Boosh send thousands of people's sons over to Iraq!

CHENEY was the defacto president. Boosh was just the appointed front man!

For better or worse, 2009 is just the beginning of a new era. I am relieved that Obama has a strong teammate. Barack is complimented perfectly by an experienced, intelligent and lightning quick pit bull like Joe. Looking at what needs to be achieved to win this election for the Democrats, Joe Biden was the only choice, not just the best choice. After eight years years of ruminating, they finally picked a good Joe.

If anyone thinks that running mates do not matter, look at the two crazies the parties expected us to choose from in 2000. The Republicans sent us the CEO of Halliburton. So, the Democratic party felt that Joe Lieberman -- someone just as corporate, war-loving, darkly twisted and nihilist -- was exactly what the ticket needed to win. Like their counterparts in the GOP, Democrats at the time did little homework on the running mates. This "vetting by the people" is new territory. I suspect that many in the "hold your nose and vote Nader" crowd would have voted for Gore if he were paired with a quality veep. He would not have needed Florida. He would have won solid.

This year is different. America can finally begin to heal and move past the dark decades spent under the Clinton and Bush crime families. Going forward, both parties had better get together, take a good hard look at what the executive branch has done since 1980, and be honest about fixing it. If they do not restore the Constitution, regardless of who wins, the great democratic experiment of America is over.

The winner is Chickenjuggler!

On Tuesday, August 12, 2008 at 1:53 pm, he chose Biden.

I called Barack and told him to do it.

Then again, I told him to wear a helmet when he rides a bike and to go bowling.

Ehh, 1 for 3, I guess.

Littlesongs wrote: "For better or worse, 2009 is just the beginning of a new era."

I am not so sure about that as I talked today with a very intelligent and articulate recent HS grad that has been fed all the right winged bullshit.

The right teaching their young'en's how to drink the kool-aide before they leave high school!

Here's the thing, they've always been teaching their young'en's how to drink the koolaid. All we have to do is enlighten about 10% of them for permanent neoCON dirt nap.


Speaking of neoCON, where the hell is Trixer?

At the beach.


With Herb.

(That should get him back here PDQ)

>>embrace a Mormon

I'm on record for a McCain-Romney ticket...no prob...

FYI: Nobody cares what you think/want until you start contributing more than 1 actual complete sentence.

pow...bam...oh that hurt Mrs...but God still loves us all complete sentences or not...and you to with brow raising comments...good grief...we communicate with acronyms now days...ttyl...