McCain's VP choice: Lieberman?!

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Author: Brianl
Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 5:37 pm
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Wow, that could be rather interesting. It certainly could draw in some of the moderate crowd that would otherwise lean to Obama.

This could well be a very good move for the GOP, IMHO. The question is, since Lieberman isn't a Republican, can they get away with it?

Author: Andrew2
Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 6:10 pm
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I don't see how McCain can get away with choosing a pro-choice VP. He's already trying to get social conservatives excited enough to get go to the polls for him. And moderate Democrats would likely see Lieberman as a turn-coat. So would Republicans. As much as Republicans would gloat about Lieberman becoming, say, a Republican (which would be a requirement of him taking the VP slot for sure), no one really likes or respects a Benedict Arnold very much, even if he's joining your side.

No doubt McCain enjoys the speculation a possible Lieberman choice stirs up, however.

I think McCain will pick a bedrock conservative Republican - perhaps a newer face but not someone who would upset the apple cart.

Andrew

Author: Aok
Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 6:41 pm
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McCain will be the good conservative and pick someone who is white, male and protestant. Real cross section of America.

Author: Brianl
Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 8:50 pm
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Well Andrew, I know that many social conservatices aren't enamored with McCain, and the addition of a moderate Democrat (or independent now) who is pro-choice, and Jewish (I am sure that would play a factor) wouldn't help either, but honestly McCain has many of them in his corner because they will still vote for him over Obama. It's negligble how many of the Neo-Cons will change to maybe the Constitution Party candidate, but they probably know they are throwing their vote away.

Author: Andrew2
Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 9:25 pm
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Right, many social conservatives aren't crazy about McCain; that's why he needs a staunch conservative acceptable to social conservatives, to appease them, instead of a moderate pro-choice former Democrat. Turn-out is the name of the game in these close elections. If social conservatives think their choice is between a pro-choice ticket and a wobbly pro-life/pro-choice ticket, what's their incentive to get out and vote on election day? The Bush-Rove machine increased turn-out massively between 2000 and 2004, which is why Bush squeaked out a win in 2004 despite the Democrats' own impressive turn-out effort that year. Rove knew how to motivate them to vote for Bush; if they aren't motivated to vote for McCain, they won't. Some may vote for Bob Barr or some other third party, but others simply won't bother.

Andrew

Author: Roger
Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 5:00 am
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So, let's say he bucked the trend and went with a non white, non male non protestant. Not many public figures fit that and those that do would be tied to BOOSH and cement the McSame label. (any asian female pagans on the radar?)
Condy Rice might make an idea candidate EXCEPT she has been with BOOSH for so long that it would be tough to overcome and give Bama ammunition regarding BoosH lite.

Other than that, brilliant choice. Maybe to show he can reach across the aisle, he should tab Hillary. She was in the Young Republicans in College.......

Should be a separate thread but

I see that Nancy Pelosi has some investment in T Boone's company. Maybe that is why she doesn't want drilling? ( for equal time, probably some well know repoobs have money in that pot as well)

STILL, public figgers ought to be able to line their own pockets AND look out for the good of the peeps at the same time.

As much as Mr Pick'em clean touts nat gas and windmills as solutions, remember, his interest is HIS WALLET, not our welfare. I might be more inclined to believe his message were he not so invested in the solution he pitches.

Author: Vitalogy
Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 10:17 am
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Screw Joe Lieberman. He doesn't stand a chance. There will be no pro-choice people on the GOP ticket. Take that one to the bank!

Author: Stevethedj
Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 10:24 am
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the consertives would unite behind a mccain-barr ticket. at least we know what were getting. until mccain gets it on the immigration isssue. i'll stand on the sidelines and not vote.

Author: Andrew2
Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 11:31 am
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As with Lieberman, Barr can't be McCain's VP nominee because he is not a member of the Republican party - and he is already the Libertarian candidate for president.

Andrew

Author: Missing_kskd
Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 11:44 am
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God that guy is just totally hosed up.

Connecticut for Lieberman Party.

Wonder if that Political Science Professor intends on doing anything with his party charmanship. Last I read, he opened the party to critics of Lieberman, and anybody with the name Lieberman!!

Also, since Holy Joe actually won, that party has an open slot on the next State ballot, and is not required to nominate Lieberman for it!

Could be good theatre.

Author: Warner
Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 1:32 pm
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I'm sure Lieberman will bring as much value to the GOP ticket as he did to the Democrats in 2000.

Please McCain, pick Joe!

Author: Andrew2
Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 3:55 pm
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Lieberman probably did help Gore in Florida - at least until after election day, when he started arguing that all military absentee ballots should be counted in Florida, regardless of when they were postmarked or what the actual rules were. That seems to be when he started his Benedict Lieberman routine...

Andrew

Author: Alfredo_t
Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 3:59 pm
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Traditionally, when do the major party Presidential candidates announce their running mates?

Author: Andrew2
Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 4:12 pm
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Clinton formally picked Gore on July 10, 1992, the week before that year's convention.

Gore picked Lieberman on August 8, 2000, again about a week before the start of the convention.

Obama will have picked Biden by this weekend, which will be consistent with that timing.

Dole picked Kemp on August 11, 1996, again the week before their convention. Bush picked Cheney on July 25, 2000, again about a week before the convention.

So...traditionally, about a week before the convention.

Andrew

Author: Broadway
Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 8:17 am
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my prediction...

McCain-Romney

Author: Missing_kskd
Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 9:03 am
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Please let it be Romney, because the GOP deserves the very worst!

Author: Inthemiddle
Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 9:54 am
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Lieberman or Romney would seal it for Obama.

Author: Brianl
Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 10:39 am
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Romney certainly would seal it for Obama. IMHO, so would a lot of people that are far to the right, the Mike Huckabees of the world.

I still think Lieberman could be a help to the ticket, if he was allowed to run. More of a help than Romney would be, for sure.

Author: Andrew2
Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 11:14 am
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Romney failed miserably in the primaries. He lost almost every 2008 primary he was supposed to win, except for Michigan and Massachusetts, which were basically home state wins. I thought the guy was a loser even before Iowa and was baffled throughout the primaries that so many supposed smart people kept saying he was a top candidate, even as he continued to lose primary after primary.

So why would McCain want a loser on his ticket? And Romney isn't known to be a friend of McCain exactly.

You can pick a rival for your ticket, as Reagan did in 1980 or JFK did in 1960, but those ought to be rivals with some stature. Bush won Iowa in 1980 and proved he could win something and surprised a lot of people. Romney disappointed everyone. His political career was diminished, not helped, by his primary defeats.

Andrew


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