Check out this band. IMHO this is total garbage. More rock rap like Linkin Park with lots of cussing. Garbage!

http://hollywoodundeadofficial.ning.com/

What ever you say grandpa!

Kids go for this stuff just to get your goat.

Yeah I have to agree with Skep. You're old and you're crusty Inthemiddle. Go back to listening to KGON so you can hear the same 5 classic rock songs played for the 9 millionth time.

Some people like Linkin Park, I am one of them

Have a nice day!

I'd bet that Inthemiddle and I are within 5 years of being the same age! I'll be 53 in September.

I have to agree with him. Garbage. (IMHO)

But that's why there are many different kinds of music.

Everybody likes what they like!

For me it's Sirius 16 (The Vault), Sirius 14 (Classic Vinyl) and Sirius 31 (Radio Margaritaville). If I have to listen to commercial radio, it’s KGON.

I remember when my grandfathed heard Herman's Hermits. I'm henry the eight. he told me thats nice stevieboy. and told my grandmother thats the worst noise ive ever heard. And my step dad didnt like the doors. the more things change the more they stay the same. LOL.

I remember (do I sound old when I start a sentence like that, or what?) when the Beatles came out my Dad hated it, but my Mom said "The've got a nice beat".

Even at that age, I vowed that when I got old I was going to be more like my Mom than my Dad.

Still trying to keep an open mind.

It's really quite subjective. Unfortunately, everyone consumes music on different levels. When I was a DJ I consumed lots of new music, but in those days it was easier to keep up with new music simply because the volume of available recordings was much smaller. But I digress. There is nothing wrong with music today that isn't overshadowed by what's right with music today:wink

Speaking for myself, as the years went by and I studied music and learned to play jazz and then the blues (blues being the root for jazz and rock), I began to consume music with a different approach. Most of what I previously liked I still liked, but with a much more definable set of reasons, not just "it does/doesn't do something for me." Music as an art is not "anything goes." Sure, you can try to go that route, but if you hope to spread your music amongst the masses, you won't get far. Even when there is no apparent structure or form, most successful music is built on exactly that. Whether you get the math or don't get the math, you can't put a bunch of instruments/voices together and expect to get people to listen to it if for example everyone plays in a different key, there is no common time signature, or everyone plays in a different progression. In fact, while you can overdub this kind of nonsense, it's almost impossible to produce it live without stuffing cotton in the ears of every musician.

Music outlives any trends. Music survives all trends. What endures, hard as some of you will resist the notion, follows patterns. Powerpop, reggae, metal, etc. all follow patterns. Even the scorching solos of the greatest improvisors are based in patterns, root notes, chord progressions and the like.

Listen to a symphony. Listen to Miles Davis. Listen to big bands, Listen to any piece of music that has even the smallest amount of staying power, and you will see patterns.

Three verses, a chorus, a bridge ... the coda, a second bridge.
Can you pick these out of a pop song? If you can't or don't know what the hell I'm talking about, then more than likely you are someone that just "likes" or doesn't like what you hear based on what it does for you emotionally. But don't be fooled! It's your brain doing the math, the analysis of the patterns, the chord changes and comparing and contrasting it to other music that you like.

It's not about whether your old or young, a novice trumpet student or a lifelong pianist that works as an accountant, Elton John or Eric Clapton. No one likes everything musical. But don't be misled, it's not a random thing. It's true that every generation has its own music, but the underlying analysis of why you like it is a constant. Without it, music would be chaos, noise, and not the art form and industry it has become.

26!
Guys I'm sorry to burst your bubble but this is garbage. Just like 2 Live Crew they will fall by the way side. Sure, they will make millions and probably get attention but like Milli Vanilli it's still garbage.
This is what the industry is coming to just like all the re-makes in the movie industry. Too many drugs and no creativity!
We can do better than this!!

For many years, I have wanted to study music theory and playing. Unfortunately, I haven't had the time to focus on this. The first time that I heard the idea that certain chords, chord progressions, etc. sound good because of the way that the human brain processes sounds, I was fascinated. I can't imagine that humans evolved to listen to music. Much more likely, the desire to hear certain patterns is a side effect of some other trait that had an evolutionary advantage. I am just speculating here; I don't know what the current scientific theory is on this.

I feel tempted to blame the use of computers for the lack of creativity in music production today. Years ago, when recording studios were much more primitive places, musicians and producers had to improvise to create new sounds. For instance, many different tricks were devised to create reverb and echoes. Drums were used in unusual ways to create the mega bass drum sounds of 80s pop. People toiled for countless hours with razor blades and splicing blocks. That kind environment attracted people who could think "out of the box," people who paid attention to detail, and people with a lot of patience and determination. Computers, in my opinion, cultivate a different culture: specific software releases come with a certain set of features and capabilities. Computer users limit themselves to what the effects and features in the software were "intended" to do. Furthermore, people tend to mistakenly equate becoming competent at using software with becoming skilled at the task that software is supposed to
perform (i.e. I learned to use Pro Tools, so now I'm a recording engineer or I learned to use Final Cut Pro, so now I'm a super-duper video editor).

I'm not going to wait for everything on that page to load over dial-up, but I agree with probably just about everyone else... if you don't like the music, don't listen to it personally, don't link to it for the rest of the world, but don't expect everyone else on the planet to share your views and/or find it themselves.

I should probably add that I also like Linkin Park, as well as my I-wish-she-were-my-girlfriend. So there.

Music is SUBJECTIVE Inthemiddle, Get it??

Then why do casinos spend big bucks on what the sounds and sound track that comes out of there slot michines?? it's done for a reason.

Music is SUBJECTIVE Inthemiddle, Get it??

I do Bean but I still think we can do better!

I didn't think I'd be posting tonight as I'm one of the supervisors of a kids' dance at a religion-associated facility (who'd have thought?), but who'd thought the music would include:
Nina "99 Red Balloons"
Journey "Don't Stop Believing"
ZZ Top "Eliminator;"
and even (get ready for this):
Scorpions "Rock You Like a Hurricane!"

You're all right that music is subjective... the folks who were kids in the 80s who have their own kids now see nothing wrong with the music their parents thought was obscene and corrupting them at the time!

Andy Said ( and reopened my favorite can of worms by doing so ) - Three verses, a chorus, a bridge ... the coda, a second bridge.
Can you pick these out of a pop song? If you can't or don't know what the hell I'm talking about, then more than likely you are someone that just "likes" or doesn't like what you hear based on what it does for you emotionally. But don't be fooled! It's your brain doing the math, the analysis of the patterns, the chord changes and comparing and contrasting it to other music that you like.

In your opinion, and I'll try and phrase this as unleading as possible;

Do you believe that structure is pleasing to the human ear because the brain finds it pleasing? As in, it taps into something that on a base physiological level. Or is it more because of what we have been programmed to enjoy because...well... for all sorts of reasons?

Chicken vs. egg, I know.

Those aren't the only two options at play, I suspect. But if they were, which influence holds more weight in making a pleasing sound?

Also, have you read any books on Music and The Brain? It can be interesting stuff. It's not for everyone. It is to me.

If you don't mind, Inthemiddle,
Can you please post your top 5 favorite bands. Im curious to see what you are listening to.

My money is on these guys -- inoffensive and safe:

Barry Manilow
Gordon Lightfoot
Henry Mancini
Michael Bolton
David Gates

No problem

1. AC/DC
2. The Beatles
3. Soundgarden
4. Boston
5. Metallica

Beach Boys
Four Seasons
Jan and Dean
Paul Revere and the Radiers
Fleetwood Mac

oooh you didn't ask me, never mind!

beanie? skep? you guys aren't usually so snarky....

I was reading an article and it was talking about how once you reach a certain age, around 30, You stop enjoying new music.
In a nutshell, once you reach 30 years of age you turn old and crusty and only want to hear the music that you grew up on. You turn a blind eye to new music and only like to resort back to the old familiar favorites. Maybe its the nostalgia factor or maybe you're just getting old, I don't know.
If you look hard enough, I bet you would be able to find some really cool new artists that you would actually enjoy listening to. There really are some great new bands out there, but you do have to go looking for them because you probably won't hear them on the radio.

Now don't get me wrong, I love Classic Rock and I listen to it ALL THE TIME but I also think its nice to hear some new music also.

I wonder if some people have a phobia of listening to new music? I've never understood why older people are so against new music. If It's not something they are familiar with, they automatically attribute it to Crapola.

There really is some great music that DIDN'T COME OUT of the 60's and 70's!

I just want to know, is this dopey band in the link paying Slipknot for rights to thier image?

20-25 years ago Full-Service radio stations were playing a lot of contemporary material, and a large portion of the audience was over 30. It worked back then. What is different today?

Music videos.

American Idol

All of the new music has already been written!!

Guitar Hero.

Milli Vanilli....

This one belongs on the other side in the list of songs you never hear on the radio....

What is different today?

The suits have no interest or passion for their business.

Everybody sing......

Are there dollar signs in sight?
I don't know if the format is right.
But I only have eyes for rev-e-new, dear

The ratings, in the tank.
The playlist is stale and dank.
As the listeners disapear from view,
But I only have eyes for REV-E-NEW..........