This story is getting National attention and outraging parents everywhere.

22 Year old Natalie Dylan is selling her virginity to the highest bidder at the Bunny Ranch in vegas!

Her father must be so proud!
http://a11news.com/641/natalie-dylan/

Natalie was a guest on the Stern show last week... she seems pretty grounded, sane and realistic about the whole thing. Like so many of her age, sex isn't that big of a deal and she sees a chance to make some bucks to get a graduate degree.

In the end, the final choice of "suitor" is hers and not just automatically the highest bidder.

This story is sad. But she will not be the first young ladie to "work her way thru college".

Gives a new meaning to high priced call girl...is this legal?
Will any testing be done for std's/hiv?
This is a sorry state of our society.

Legal? Yes, in certain counties in Nevada prostitution is legal, and she is supposedly going to "do" it there.

Andrew

Will any testing be done for std's/hiv?


She will be at the Bunny Ranch, and I'm pretty darn sure EVERYONE is tested for HIV and other STDS' or else that place would have been closed down a long time ago.


Mikekolb says
"she seems pretty grounded, sane and realistic about the whole thing."

You have to be pretty messed up in the head to actually want to do this. This is not normal.

>>This is not normal.

Amen!!! Where's the shame? Bad messages here to send to youth...bad stuff.

"Gives a new meaning to high priced call girl...is this legal?
Will any testing be done for std's/hiv?
This is a sorry state of our society."

You are really closet raised.

LPIN's (Legal Prostitute In Nevada) are registered with the Sheriff of the County that the legal brothel does business in. State law requires all registered brothel prostitutes to be laboratory tested and visually checked every week. They must clear a laboratory panel of 5 different STDs and Chlamydia. They must pass a visual check for genital herpes and genital warts. Blood tests are taken at least monthly to detect HIV and syphilis and annually for Hepatitis A, B, C.

There has never been a case of HIV reported in the legal Nevada brothel system. The incidence of STD's is extremely low. Condoms are required for all sex acts by law.

Prostitution has been tolerated in Nevada since the middle of the 19th century (think gold rush). It was legalized by giving the county control over the presence of brothels. The fees to run a brothel are high, so the poorer counties tend to welcome the tax income whereas the larger counties do not. All prostitution in Las Vegas, for example, is illegal (and a lot more dangerous with respect to getting rolled or infected).

Now this may come as a shock, Broadway, so please sit down. Up until the mid 1980's city officials in Portland looked the other way with regard to many brothels operating illegally within the city limits. Brothel prostitution in Portland has a long history, dating back to the earliest days of the city. Turn of the century (1900) locations like the building formerly housing Digger O'Dells/The Rose & Raindrop which is now a bank was an upper middle class brothel with a balcony and ornate furnishings. Two early working class brothels were located 1) On Barbur Blvd. where the Crab Bowl currently is located in a long narrow building with an upstairs that once had lots of small rooms (before it was the Crab Bowl, another restaurant was there and had the history written up on the menu back cover) and 2) The White Eagle Cafe on N. Russell. The legend of it being haunted dates from the days when upstairs was a brothel (and an opium den in the basement). Legend has it that a jealous lover caught her beau there with a prostitute and murdered them both.

Prostitution was legal in Texas until about a dozen? years ago.


In the 1970's brothel prostitution was flourishing in Portland. The Centurion on NE Sandy Blvd (they took down the sign only a few years ago ... on the north side I think it's about 56th). The sign had said "HDT Importers" last I remember. Classy place done up real nice with gorgeous women. California Girls located on the corner of SE Holgate and Milwaukie Ave., Ginger's Sexy Sauna Chain composed of four or five places were all shut down together when they finally got Ginger on tax evasion. The PPD could never catch any of her girls because she had trained them well to manage and control the conversation with potential clients to keep it legal.

There's a lot more to the history part, but for the sake of brevity you right wing religious zealots need only look to your Bible to understand why prostitution is the world's oldest profession, not bakeries. Seems to me a brother Jew of old named Jesus used to hang out with less fortunate and working class poor, the prostitutes of his times and the downtrodden reminding them we are all equal in the eyes of the Lord, a message the right wing extremists in America have yet to learn.

Equating street prostitution with brothel prostitution is irresponsible. Then again, that seems to be the mantra of the Republican Conservatives. It's interesting that the so called holier than thou right wingers are just as prone to get caught up in the vices of wealth if not more so than the average person.

Also worth noting that legal prostitutes in Nevada negotiate their time and services in a legal brothel and must share the money with the house 50/50. So in the instant case, said woman hoping to sell her virginity would have to get two dollars for every one dollar she hopes to make in revenue, and they can't hide from the federal tax system because their income is reported by the brothel like any other 1099 subcontractor so to net one million dollars, she'd have to negotiate for about 2.8 million. That's absurd. Some of the women there make a lot of dough, even as much as $25 thousand dollars for a multi-day out-date, but not 2.8 million dollars for one act of sex.

LIke my favorite car salesman once said, "There's an ass for every seat."

So, in closing, Broadway, the country has not reached some new low, some new "sorry state" as you said. It is almost exactly the way it has always been.

What did you think ZZ Top was singing about, a tavern?

"Rumour sprendin' a-'round in that Texas town
'bout that shack outside La Grange
and you know what I'm talkin' about.
Just let me know if you wanna go
to that home out on the range.
They gotta lotta nice girls.

Have mercy.

A haw, haw, haw, haw, a haw.
A haw, haw, haw.

Well, I hear it's fine if you got the time
and the ten to get yourself in.
A hmm, hmm.
And I hear it's tight most ev'ry night,
but now I might be mistaken.
hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm.

Have mercy."

My reference is to the 22 year old and her state of mind/offer...not the prostitution world...which I'm glad to be "in the closet".

Now there's going to be a "new class" of prostitutes...highest bidder for virgins...that's the new low...not a good way to be free from emotional baggage if marriage is in her future.

5 bucks says that it won't happen.

10 bucks says that Dobson will bid on her and not seal the deal, of course. Then she'll get propped up as some kind of poster child for something that she doesn't even actually believe in. She'll get used either way.

Broadway wrote:


Amen!!! Where's the shame? Bad messages here to send to youth...bad stuff.

Then DO something about the high price of education. It's the same old thing with you "christians", you'll preach all day, but at the end we STILL can't afford things like college and health care. That's why she's doing it for heaven's sake.

Its probably MUCH MUCH safer for a guy to go and have sex with a woman at the Bunny ranch than meet a woman at a club.

At least with the Bunny ranch, these women are tested constantly for Aids and Std's. Infact Id be curious to know the percentage of guys who go to the bunny ranch and get an STD (not aids) from these women. I would bet its slim to none.

This 22 year old woman at least won't have to worry about HIV or an STD. Although I think the emotional scarring will be a lot worse than the physical.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dobson bid AND 'sealed the deal'!

She's way too old for Rush, he pays a fraction of that in the Phillipines and Thailand for half that age.

Watching the video link to the story a couple of things come to mind. First off-she is an adult and should be able to make her own decisions. Second-why in the world would you want to broadcast this?

There is a side of me that is saddened by her decision. Seems to be a loss of common sense, but that's just me. And what if this were my daughter? Did she really exhaust all other possible means to raise the money she needed?

The fact that she wants to be a family counselor I found ironic.

This is one women's choice. I'm thankful that I have never had to make this kind of decision.

Well, it's kind of twisted. I have no problem with it though. As an adult, she gets to do that. Personally, I think it's a bad call, but also not my call.

Agreed on the safety of the Bunny Ranch. Regulated enterprises like that are as safe as it gets. (which is why we really should decriminalize this to a larger degree)

Chris, the broadcast is all about capturing morbid human interest. Those kinds of one shot, "I did it first on the net" are worth some attention and that attention can be converted into dollars. Maybe more dollars than the act will generate!

I know younger women that do exotic dancing for school! They do fairly well actually. This is a notch or two above that, but in the end, perhaps not something that's gonna impact her longer term.

Well, maybe the broadcast will, but who knows?

If it's an act for money, and she disassociates it, then she surrenders very little actually. Tough to do and risky in that if she fails at that, she's gonna have to live with the act for a long time.

Only a small percentage of us actually marry to the first partner we have. Given that, what's the big loss?

And that's a serious question I don't exactly have an answer to.

If she really goes through with continuing to promote this, this will blow up, I bet.

What if some Islamic extremist wants to get one of his virgins early, just to hedge against there not being 71 more after he dies? That's not an outlandish scenario.

And what kind of man is going to hold a press conference after the act, as if they are standing before the lottery commission in claiming their big check? It's not like people wouldn't make a judgment call on that man.

But maybe it will be a woman who is the highest bidder.

And that will be ok.

If she was my daughter, I would try and talk her out of it. If she still went through with it, I would be crushed. Maybe that makes me a hypocrite on many levels. I can't help it on that one though.

Well now we all know where Trixter has been

LOL!!

I would try talking her out of it too. That can't be the ONLY rational and or viable choice. It just can't.

However, if there is no talking her out of it, then after pushing really hard, I would then help make the whole thing pay off and be safe.

someone sez: Where's the shame? Bad messages here to send to youth...bad stuff.

Too bad the person who said this is spending his life barking up the wrong tree.

See how many more opportunities women have in the world than men?

You're so right!

I'm scrounging around the bottom of my purse right now, trying to scrounge up a few bucks to offer Naveen Andrews

Merkin lets set it up ,you and Naveen and I hook up with his Girlfreind Barbara Hershey!!!!!

I don't think too many of you get this story at all.

First off, she's not your daughter, so all these "if she was mine" comments are out of place and judgmental. Are you unable to form an opinion without taking possession of the situation? I wonder.

Second, her sister already is a working girl at the ranch, making good money, having fun, meeting lots of guys with the kind of money to provide education that waiting tables and working at Walmarts won't finance. You would all be surprised to learn how many of the workers in LPIN are professional women, many college educated and some with advanced degrees. I've met them, they've shown me the proof ... it's not just a fake front, it's real. After all, the government under the GOP has made it near impossible for those without cash resources to get a really good education.

In addition to all that, Dennis Hof, 10 year owner of the Bunnyranch is on a mission to mainstream legal prostitution. As much as this might make Broadway, Herb and the like cry out in pain, I would point out that the State Of Nevada has at least made an effort to clean up the street level problem like that which was a big headline in todays bOregonian. The small minded right wants abortion to be a state level decision ... well, prostitution already is, so I'd warn the right be careful what you wish for. The end result may not be what you think, especially since the overwhelming majority of American voters want a woman to be able to choose her reproductive decisions. LIkewise, if Oregon legalized prostitution in a manner similar to what exists in Nevada, there would be less demand for streetwalking type sex. Look around the globe and you will see that America is so woefully caught up in itself, its own excesses, its capitalistic greed and avarice that it has not matured socially at all. You aren't going to legislate morality. You aren't going to stop prostitution. You aren't going to eliminate abortion. Get real. If you want to keep sex activities off the street, legalize it, regulate it, tax it.

My first statement was I have no problem with it, and that stands true.

Your follow on comments are a big part of why I have no real problem with it!

Thinking it's a poor idea, having that conversation, then supporting her choice is not judgmental. Just safe.

Sorry Andy but I still stand by my "What if this was my daughter."

I have never set foot in a strip joint or topless bar. I really don't get prostitution. Yeah call me naive but the bottom line for me is the big picture. What a choice to be making when, in my opinion, there are better choices.

I'm not making any kind of judgmental statement but if a woman is going to make headlines like this she best be ready for the feedback.

And yeah maybe underneath my previous post I really do have a problem with it Andy.

I think that this lady, whose name is not really Natalie Dylan, is a bit deluded to expect somebody to bid a million dollars, as the story states. Who would pay that much for some brief "entertainment" sex, when there are other prostitutes working in that brothel who are going to charge a lot less. However, given the stringent requirements for working at a legal brothel, I expect that this is is something that "Natalie" and her sister, who is an employee at the brothel, have been planning for some time.

I'm curious, what do feminists think about this story? Are they on the side of "Natalie," or do they find the implications repulsive?

I have never availed myself of the services of a prostitute, but given the descriptions given here of the ground rules and controls associated with legalized prostitution in Nevada, I don't have a problem with what is going on there. It doesn't sound to me like they are being exploited.

Who would pay that much for some brief "entertainment" sex, when there are other prostitutes working in that brothel who are going to charge a lot less.


OH TRUST ME Alfredo, there are plenty of politicians that would fork over that kind of dough to have sex with a 22 year old virgin.

John Edwards is probably salivating as he reads the article about Natalie Dylan

Beano: John Edwards is probably salivating as he reads the article about Natalie Dylan

Yeah, Rudy Giuliani and Newt Gingrich too! Think either one is ready to trade up to wife #4?

Andrew

I bid a 12 pack of PBR

I love you. Mainly because I was wondering how I was going to get rid of that little Barbara Hershey "issue".

I'll supply the White Russians.

Who would want someone with no experience ? And for that much money ? All she want's is attention, and she got her 15 seconds of shame already. And to say again what others have, you could have someone a LOT younger for a LOT less money almost anywhere in America or another Country. But whatever, if someone is stupid enough to pay her for that, more power to you.

" First off, she's not your daughter, so all these "if she was mine" comments are out of place and judgmental."

No they aren't. But even if they were; So what? What opinion expressed here isn't based on some form of how it would effect you, make you feel or how you think it may make someone else feel?

" Are you unable to form an opinion without taking possession of the situation? I wonder."

Yes. I chose not to. I can do that, right? Just because I find a personal way to relate to it doesn't mean my take is somehow invalid or without merit. I'm fine with the " It has no effect on me. It's legal. People should be able to do whatever they want within the law and not be judged." argument. I believe that very thing. I didn't think I needed to state that before expressing my opinion, but so be it. There. Now I have truthfully shown you that I can form an opinion without taking possession of it.

I would still prefer that if I had the ability provide an alternative route to her success, I will explore those before pointing her towards this path.

" Second, her sister already is a working girl at the ranch, making good money, having fun, meeting lots of guys with the kind of money to provide education that waiting tables and working at Walmarts won't finance."

Great.

" You would all be surprised to learn how many of the workers in LPIN are professional women, many college educated and some with advanced degrees."

No I wouldn't.

" I've met them, they've shown me the proof ... it's not just a fake front, it's real."

I never questioned it. I believe you. Your experience with prostitutes goes unchallenged by me. And I say that without any judgment or snarkiness or anything backhanded. Sincerely. So if anyone ever asks my opinion, like say, posting a topic and inviting comments on it, I would prefer that you didn't pay my daughter for sex though. Pretending that didn't feel that way, just because I don't have a daughter or because it's legal or for any other reasons, would make me a complete hypocrite. I get your point Andy - at least I believe I do. So if the way I feel about this makes me a hypocrite on some level, then I accept that. There are some things I have preferences for. Expressing that is all I'm doing.

" In addition to all that, Dennis Hof, 10 year owner of the Bunnyranch is on a mission to mainstream legal prostitution. As much as this might make Broadway, Herb and the like cry out in pain, I would point out that the State Of Nevada has at least made an effort to clean up the street level problem like that which was a big headline in todays Oregonian."

Super. If that's what people want, I hope it works. I don't have an opinion either way on that. I have no experience with it and to pretend I have a super strong opinion about it would be false. I have only so much room to legitimately champion a cause.

" LIkewise, if Oregon legalized prostitution in a manner similar to what exists in Nevada, there would be less demand for streetwalking type sex. Look around the globe and you will see that America is so woefully caught up in itself, its own excesses, its capitalistic greed and avarice that it has not matured socially at all. You aren't going to legislate morality. You aren't going to stop prostitution. You aren't going to eliminate abortion. Get real. If you want to keep sex activities off the street, legalize it, regulate it, tax it."

That's entirely possible. Even probable.

So I'll make the following concession, I guess; If I ever have a daughter who is making this choice because I have not been able to provide an alternative to pay for her education or to find fun in other things or another way to meet men, then I will support her.

How's that?