Author: 62kgw Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 5:22 pm |
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Isn't the Winter Solstice Seasonal Holiday music late this year? |
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Author: Onetimeradioguy Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 5:36 pm |
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103 is running a promo saying they'll be playing all xmas music. Didn't catch the start date. |
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Author: Notalent Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 5:58 pm |
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No, it's not late, it's just not early, thankfully. |
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Author: Waynes_world Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 8:33 pm |
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I hope k-hits 106.7 doesn't start Christmas music the day after Thanksgiving. What are their plans for that? |
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Author: Paulwilson Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 9:32 pm |
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As of tonight, K103 should be playing it. |
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Author: Markandrews Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 9:56 pm |
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Ugh! |
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Author: Chris_taylor Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 10:38 pm |
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Our station starts Christmas music 24/7 on Thanksgiving Day. |
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Author: Larrybudmelman Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 10:38 pm |
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I have expected holiday music because the stores had Christmas stuff before Halloween. Typically, it doesn't show up until Thanksgiving, so we're not late, that's for sure. |
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Author: Washnotore2 Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 11:32 pm |
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The real Christmas music doesn't start until December 24. |
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Author: Radioxpert Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 12:10 am |
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K103 has been playing Christmas music, since 5:20 PM |
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Author: Craig_adams Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 12:13 am |
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This from yesterdays All Access: |
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Author: Semoochie Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 1:13 am |
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It's interesting that the person who started this thread was apparently composing his post at the same time that K103 switched to All Christmas. I don't really see any other stations switching this year. K-Hits would really be hurting their momentum. It would almost make more sense for KIJZ to switch and K103 to stay on format with K103 promoting it heavily. That way, K103 listeners would have a choice, K103 would dip a little and KIJZ would go up significantly! The Fish and MOYL will probably switch but that's a different ballgame. |
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Author: Paulwarren Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 1:28 am |
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I think K-Hits did the Christmas stunt last year to provide cover for the format switch from K-Lite. With K-103 switching, K-Hits may feel it's best shot is with normal format, appealing to K-103 listeners who aren't ready for Christmas so early. |
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Author: Tdanner Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 9:28 am |
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Notice that the Phili and Houston stations had absolutely nothing to lose by going all xmas music early. They were hovering near a 1.0 share before the stunt. |
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Author: Markandrews Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 11:11 am |
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Semoochie: Regarding your K103/KIJZ idea... We have another station here, 98-7 The Peak (KPKX), that is promoting a Christmas music format on their website. They take a poke at KEZ's wall-to-wall holiday music without referring to them by name, and say you can log onto the stream for your holiday fix when YOU want. Kinda novel, I think...and The Peak gets to stay in their classic hits format until much closer to the holiday. |
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Author: Tdanner Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 11:42 am |
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The change occurs in 2009. Ratings will be taken over 48 continuous weeks, with a break from Dec.8-Jan.8. |
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Author: Semoochie Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 9:38 pm |
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I notice that the Fish is now all Christmas. |
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Author: Nwradio Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 12:22 am |
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Love it or hate it, you have to admit that it gets ratings. Even if all of the cume doesn't stick around, it drives the numbers high enough to help a station's four book average. |
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Author: Markandrews Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 12:25 am |
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Thanks for sharing, Terry! I agree wholeheartedly... |
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Author: Semoochie Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 12:50 am |
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Terry, didn't they used to break for the holidays? It sure sounds familiar. |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 1:53 am |
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The Fish had switched to all-Christmas music sometime before 3pm yesterday. |
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Author: Semoochie Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 2:44 am |
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I'm surprised either of the Country stations would switch for fear that the other might have an advantage. It will be interesting to see how much of KUPL's audience stays away after the holidays. |
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Author: Semoochie Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 2:50 am |
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It may just be for the weekend. We'll see. |
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Author: Tdanner Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 8:27 am |
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There has always been about a 2 week break covering xmas and New Years. Listening patterns were considered abnormal during the period, so it is a perfect time to take 2 of the 4 weeks off needed for a 4 x 12 week survey schedule. |
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Author: Nwradio Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 9:55 am |
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Terry, I think you have to look at it market by market. There are still plenty of markets where it does well. There are also a lot of markets where people are making really bad moves. WLIT in Chicago flipped at the beginning of November which I think certainly drives a lot of "normal" people away. However, stations like KODA in Houston and EZ in Phoenix still do very well. |
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Author: Semoochie Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 1:06 pm |
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I believe that last year, KZLA went All Christmas. That was a Country station in Los Angeles that recently got Movin'. I don't think KUPL's format is permanent. It sounded like it was just for the Thanksgiving weekend. Of course, they could just rest it for a couple of weeks and then bring it back. The interesting thing about stations that aren't about to change format that run All Christmas is that you have to wonder what took so long for this to happen. It used to be that you could go shopping on December 23 and not be able to find any continuous Christmas music on the radio while you're completely in the mood. I never understood that. |
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Author: 62kgw Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 2:45 pm |
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Can someone pinpoint what year began stations doing "All Christmas"? Like Smoochie said, before that, you would only get all christmas music on Dec 24 and 25th. Was there some factor(s) that caused the change? Or was it that nobody wanted to risk it. Perhaps having multiple station groups in same market under common ownership(s) set the stage. |
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Author: Rawhide Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 7:14 pm |
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In 2002, KWJJ traded the positioner "Portland's Best Country" for "Portland's Best Christmas" playing only country christmas songs. The plan was all holiday tunes for the final phase of the book. A very risky gamble. With the sales people questioning the sanity of programming and listeners freaking out, the format was dumped after 2 weeks shifting to 1 or 2 seasonal songs per hour. For the country format, the holiday library is not as extensive as it seems and the repetition got on my nerves! We even created a new station logo for the website and listener e-mailreplacing the JJ with candycains & stockings. Fun experiment ... our numbers in that trend were disappointing. |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 11:50 pm |
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62kgw: The first station to go all-Christmas music in Portland was 92.3 KGON on November 1, 1973. KGON continued the Christmas format until January 24, 1974. |
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Author: Skeptical Friday, November 24, 2006 - 12:05 am |
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Okay, I threw in the X-mas new age tracks into the Crystal Ballroom playlist just moments ago -- I do this every year so, from now until just after the new year, enjoy! |
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Author: 62kgw Friday, November 24, 2006 - 2:23 pm |
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That must have been just before KGON started with the rock format? |
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Author: Craig_adams Friday, November 24, 2006 - 6:16 pm |
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Yes, KGON switched to its Album format right after a short period off the air, on February 1, 1974. |
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Author: Paulwalker Friday, November 24, 2006 - 6:22 pm |
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As I recall, the first Clear Channel "suggestion" to go all Xmas was about '02. By '03, most CC AC's, some oldies, and some other adult formats had joined the festivities. I sense a little backlash this year, but only the ratings will prove that right or wrong. |
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Author: Trixter Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 1:56 pm |
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WHEN WILL IT BE OVER!!!!!!!! |
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Author: Motozak Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 4:52 pm |
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Muzak started playing Christmas Music on Monday-- |
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Author: Craig_adams Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 9:48 pm |
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100,000 Watts is reporting their yearly Christmas count. As of 11/25/06 there are 241 all Christmas music stations nationwide. |
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Author: Trixter Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 1:38 pm |
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Is it January 1st yet???? |
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Author: Onetimeradioguy Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 2:57 pm |
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Kind of funny that "The Flounder" has switched to xmas music. Its TV spot is still pushing the religious music format. |
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Author: Semoochie Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 11:52 pm |
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They mix Contemporary Christian Christmas music in with traditional secular favorites including carols. |
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Author: Craig_adams Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 4:46 am |
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From All Access: |
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Author: Copernicus Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 9:38 am |
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Are there more Christmas songs than these classics? |
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Author: Craig_adams Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 1:51 pm |
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Yes many more! |
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Author: Radiogiant Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 1:53 pm |
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What happened to "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer" ?? |
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Author: Mrs_merkin Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 2:25 pm |
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Must be #26. |
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Author: Skeptical Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 5:00 pm |
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mary christmas darling? #27 hmm? |
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Author: Waynes_world Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 8:52 pm |
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What ever happened to "I love how you love me" by the Paris Sisters? That used to be a Christmas song. |
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Author: Mrs_merkin Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 9:18 pm |
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Haven't we discussed that stupid song enough for you over the last two or three Christmas's? |
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Author: Craig_adams Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 9:21 pm |
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"Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer" is still controlled by SESAC. |
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Author: Paulwalker Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 9:29 pm |
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How did we survive without 24/7 Xmas music before about 2001? |
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Author: 62kgw Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 9:59 pm |
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What number are the Chipmunks? |
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Author: Semoochie Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 10:16 pm |
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I've always thought that SOMEONE should play all Christmas music after about the 15th of December, maybe not that early but definitely before the 20th. However, both my wife and daughter think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread! I think it's interesting that people are willing to listen to Christmas music by artists that they otherwise wouldn't be caught dead listening to! How many 25-54 year olds are big on Bing Crosby, Perry Como, Andy Williams and Gene Autry? |
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Author: Craig_adams Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 10:48 pm |
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62kgw: You are referring to "The Chipmunk Song (Christmas Don't Be Late)" originally credited on the first issue as: |
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Author: Mrs_merkin Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 10:56 pm |
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Semoochie: |
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Author: Semoochie Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 11:00 pm |
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I believe you want to talk to Craig about that. I'm not the one ranking the songs but appreciate being confused with such good company. |
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Author: Mrs_merkin Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 11:12 pm |
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Awwwww! Smooches to you! |
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Author: Onetimeradioguy Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 11:51 pm |
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Wayner... |
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Author: Skeptical Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 1:38 am |
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onetime, you haven't been to the "other side" for a while haven't you? |
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Author: Semoochie Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 2:28 am |
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I Love How You Love Me was used in a commercial airing only during the holidays the last few years. |
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Author: Bunsofsteel Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 2:33 am |
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Hey Merkin, |
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Author: Waynes_world Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 10:14 am |
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Author: Onetimeradioguy |
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Author: Tdanner Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 1:55 pm |
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Wayne: |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 3:59 am |
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If you're interested primarily in early Stereo recordings read on: |
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Author: Pdx1312 Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 8:19 am |
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Speaking of older records. For the last few years, I have been looking for a Christmas album that my family used to listen to constantly during the holidays, unfortunately the album was lost (or so we thought) and no one could remember the name of it. Only a few songs; Who's that up on the roof, I want an elephant for Christmas and a few others. My father finally found it in the attic, the album is called "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" by the Caroleers. (no date on the album) the record itself was warped:-( and nowhere could I find it on print, CD or otherwise. I finally found a website devoted to Christmas records that aren't on CD (I know, this will ruffle some copyright protection feathers) but, I am not too concerned, it's not like it's the Bing Crosby Chirstmas album. If you are interested, go to: http://falalalala.com/?cat=3 |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 2:26 pm |
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That's like going through an old Christmas record bin at Goodwill! |
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Author: Wannabe Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 4:30 pm |
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Some really great Christmas/Holiday songs have been produced in the past 30 years. So why are we hearing that stupid Holley Jolly christmas song by old Burl Ives in the Hot rotation? There is a ton of great stuff out there that programmers need to take a listen to.....one example, those (the name slips my mind) the green, red, gold, and white cds, those, along with dozens of others contain some really good cuts. |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 6:27 pm |
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I believe you're talking about "A Very Special Christmas" CD's made for Special Olympics. Yes, they are very good. I've been hearing cuts from them and others too. You have to remember the earlier music brings back memories of childhood Christmas' for a lot of listeners. |
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Author: Semoochie Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 8:24 pm |
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The Caroleers rings a bell! I'll check my mother's house. |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 9:15 pm |
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100,000 Watts reports 345 all-Christmas music stations nationwide as of 11-30-06. Markets with the most stations are: |
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Author: 62kgw Friday, December 01, 2006 - 6:23 am |
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347 according to http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?format=xms&s=R&sr=Y |
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Author: Wannabe Friday, December 01, 2006 - 12:18 pm |
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Gee Craig, I didn't know that. |
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Author: 62kgw Friday, December 01, 2006 - 2:19 pm |
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I heard a recent? version of Chipmunk Song (Christmas Don't Be Late) sung by young? female singer. Instrumentation and vocal sounds like something Radio Disney might play. No reference to chipmunks, it was sung straight. I think I heard it last year also. Craig? |
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Author: Waynes_world Friday, December 01, 2006 - 4:36 pm |
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Which internet stations are doing Christmas music? I listen to "Music from blue light" on live 365 which is like the musid of your life and they are doing Christmas music. |
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Author: Mrs_merkin Friday, December 01, 2006 - 5:09 pm |
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62kgw, |
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Author: Wannabe Friday, December 01, 2006 - 5:29 pm |
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Some greats that are rarely heard anymore: Please Daddy don't get drunk this christmas (j. denver), Santa Claus and his old Lady (cheeh and chong), Walk 'round in women's underware (rivers), Little St. Nick (b. boys). Ah! The traditions of the Holidays... |
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Author: Mrs_merkin Friday, December 01, 2006 - 5:32 pm |
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Love the C & C, I'm cracking up just thinking about it! |
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Author: 62kgw Friday, December 01, 2006 - 5:43 pm |
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Britannny Spears? I dont have any idea if its her or not. Could be. |
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Author: Craig_adams Friday, December 01, 2006 - 9:49 pm |
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62kgw: Yes I heard "The Chipmunk Song" also last year for the first time by the female artist. It was background music at a restaurant. Sorry I don't know who it is. |
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Author: Mrs_merkin Friday, December 01, 2006 - 10:05 pm |
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Hopefully Detective Adams, aka Mr. Christmas, will bust this case wide open faster than Peter Parker and report back on the mystery dame! |
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Author: Craig_adams Friday, December 01, 2006 - 11:03 pm |
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Mrs merkin: Before posting my answer I did just that. First did a google search hoping something other than The Chipmunks would come up. Nothing! |
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Author: Mrs_merkin Friday, December 01, 2006 - 11:28 pm |
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62kgw, |
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Author: Mrs_merkin Friday, December 01, 2006 - 11:39 pm |
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Under $5 (including shipping) on Amazon! |
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Author: Craig_adams Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 12:18 am |
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Listened to her version of The Chipmunk Song on-line. This is NOT what I heard last year. |
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Author: Randy_in_eugene Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 1:39 am |
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Give track #12 on this one by Powder a listen. |
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Author: Craig_adams Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 1:52 am |
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Good try Randy but I remember it more laid back. |
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Author: Mrs_merkin Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 9:28 am |
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I can't get past track #10. |
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Author: 62kgw Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 11:57 am |
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Powder - Thats it for sure. |
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Author: Trixter Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 8:55 pm |
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IS IT OVER YET???? |
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Author: Craig_adams Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 12:12 am |
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Hey Wayne! Have you checked out the 2006 U.S.P.S. Exclusive? |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 5:34 am |
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All Access reported Tuesday: "Media Monitors" has analyzed the songs played on 93 all-Christmas radio stations this year in 60 markets. Here are the Top 10: |
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Author: Wannabe Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 9:58 am |
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I always programmed christmas music that fit my formats, with a few exceptions. There is a lot of christmas music that can transition most formats, but some just does not belong. For example, yesterday, on another station, I heard Nat King Cole's great Christmas song out of Nickleback. I like the Nat King Cole song, and Nickelback, I also like Sushi and Chocolate cake, but the two don't mix. I think, for most stations, playing Christmas music is like buying a last minute cheapo gift for somebody you really don't like that much. Not much thought or caring goes into it. But if you don't do it, your are branded as non-caring or "godless". And another thing, more Christms novelty songs need to be on the air. Why is everybody so solemn during this festive time of year? Let's rejoice, let's party. RAdio stations in general have become such "sticks in the mud" when we used to be the life of the party. (: |
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Author: Craig_adams Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 1:19 pm |
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"The Christmas Song" by Nat King Cole is tricky. It has a weird introduction. For most songs you're coming out of, you can't fade into Nat, otherwise the transition sounds terrible most of the time. Letting Nat stand alone is the best choice I've found. |
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Author: Wannabe Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 5:05 pm |
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craig, yes, I see your point, but wouldn't an "All Nat-all the time" format get boring after awhile? (: |
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Author: Craig_adams Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 1:49 am |
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In Stores now while they last! The December 11-17, 2006 "TV Guide". Attached to the front of each is 1 of 4 Elvis Christmas CD-ROMs, each featuring a picture of the King at Christmas time. You have your choice of Elvis picture periods. The last being outside Graceland with a Christmas Tree. |
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Author: Missing_kskd Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 2:04 pm |
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Sorry to digress, but this is why I just cannot be a collector! |
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Author: Tdanner Monday, December 11, 2006 - 8:48 am |
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Craig: |
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Author: Craig_adams Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 2:25 am |
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Terry: I've got Christmas cassette singles from the late 1980's of "Feliz Navidad" Jose Feliciano and "Jingle Bells" The Singing Dogs among others and they've never been opened. Just picked them up for collectability. Now they're no where to be scene in stores. |
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