Just noticed today that 1010 is on with a (seemingly) local standards format! How cool is that.......did anybody see this coming?

is it stereo??I hope so!

Maybe they plan to pick up Music-Of-Your-Life; KKAD just dropped it when their syndicator, Jones switched to its own. "The Greatest Music Ever Made" doesn't seem to rely on 70s AC and some of the former MOYL people are on board.

The return of Sunny, perhaps?

Maybe with any luck, they will eventually (hopefully) migrate it back to 1520, and switch the AMAX and stereo exciter back on again.........

"Sunny 1520" had to have probably the best AM Stereo I'd heard for much of the 90's, I think. In my Mum's old car (had an AM stereo radio in it, long since sold the car off) it usually sounded like we were listening to FM!!

Maybe Bustos is paving the road for a future sell of 1010

"The return of Sunny, perhaps?"

Last time I checked KKAD was still "Sunny 1550".

1550 is still Sunny, just not MOYL.

I loved Sunny 1010, Sunny 1520 and all the other incarnations.

I wonder if Roger Hart could be waiting in the wings.

Herb

Isn't this 1010 20th change in the last 15 years?

> Maybe Bustos is paving the road for a future sell of 1010

Perhaps. I don't think that Bustos has ever really intended to operate English language formats. It seems that any English programming on Bustos stations is only there to serve a transitional purpose. I can't say, however, that I understand their strategy behind using Nostalgia as a transitional place filler.

sounded like spanish or mexican music to me last evening.

It's English this morning.
The signal wasn't too strong, though.
I'd give it an overal SINPO of 2.
Any engineer types care to weigh in about 1010's wattage, coverage area, antennae, etc.?

Herb

This morning, I did a quick check of the Bustos frequencies:

1010 English Nostalgia
1150 Spanish pop (Magia)
1230 Spanish Sports (ESPN)
1520 Regional Mexican (La Grande)

The last information that I ran across regarding the 1010 technical parameters is that they use 4500 watts from a single tower.

According to the FCC site:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=68212

It is daytime only at 4.5 KW, reduced power to 1.1 KW during critical hours. (from sunrise to 2 hours after and from 2 hours before sunset to sunset).

Right now in Portland, offical sunrise is 7:45 Am and sunset is 4:45 Pm, so it would seem that this station is allowed full power only from 9:45 Am to 2:45 Pm... ouch! And they are OFF the air from 4:45 Pm sunset to 7:45Am sunrise... double ouch!

Did you observe a "bump up" in power at 9:45?

Transmitter site is near Gresham.

do the following musicnnow count as Adult Standards????:
Rock around the Clock Bill Haley and the comets.
Shout- Isley Brothers.
I feel Good - Jsmes Btown
Be Bop Basby - Ricky Nelson
???1010AMRadio Oregon---covers the whole state?
1010 Engineers, you need to repair the Studio Microphone,in addition to turning the AM Stereo on!!!!!!
---I can't hear any of the DJ's talking.

Don't be Cruel- Elvis

Thanks, Jr. Tech.

And yes, I certainly noticed a much stronger signal after mid-morning...which time exactly, I'm not certain, but after 10am seems about right.

Boy their signal earlier in the morning was scratchy and weak. I think there was some drift from an eastern Washington State radio signal bleeding over 1010.

Herb

Can 1010 get any pre-sunrise authorization and if so would it be worth applying for? Sometimes the wattage isn't worth the effort.

I was the first PD of 1010 when it went on the air in the late 80's. The number I remember being thrown around at that time was 30 watts if 1010 wanted to stay on during the nighttime. Daytona Group felt 30 watts was not worth the cost or effort.

I think this is the same set of music they had as Sunny, just before switching to Spanish.

I remember a few winters ago when our local 1010 stayed on at night by mistake...for several straight nights. Not sure if they were on full day power or not, I kind of assume they were on critical hours power. They got absolutely creamed by 50kw blowtorch CBR in Calgary. So 30 watts at night wouldn't even be worth the ink and paper it would take to print the logs!

Well, I'll admit that 1010 AM out of Canada is a formidable signal..but wouldn't 30 watts at night at least provide some coverage around downtown? There are quite a few potential listeners, even then, aren't there?

Herb

That's still a pretty weak signal at 30 watts. Also they may have to shoot that weak signal away from any other blowtorch, which means sending it out to a part of town no one really listens.

The coverage from 30 watts on 1010 would not be reliable because, as you mentioned, CBR can be pretty strong some nights. Here's a map of the transmitter location for 1010:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=45.48417,+-122.41111+(KMUZ-AM)&om=1

That night signal would only cover Gresham.

Oh.

I didn't realize it was quite that far east of downtown Portland.

Herb

What signal are they protecting ? 1010 is a Canadian clear (hence the 50Kw blowtorch in Calgary, CBR). FCC PSRA PSSA rules here:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=47&PART=73&SECTION=99& YEAR=2005&TYPE=TEXT

If I am reading this correctly, it appears that the protected contour, by definition, stops at the border... I must be missing some fine point!

Didn't 1010 had a consturction permit for 500watts at night? Also didn't 1010 nightime signal was supposed to operate near 1480 tower?

"Maybe with any luck, they will eventually (hopefully) migrate it back to 1520, and switch the AMAX and stereo exciter back on again........."

Didn't that stereo exciter go over to KBPS AM and is what they are using for their stereo now? I thought that is what I read some time ago.

The discussion of 1010 and night time has been covered on this forum before several times. Conjecture all you want but it is still 1010 running from the same transmitter building and tower as 1230. They even simulcasted for a while not that long ago. I drive by that site almost daily. It is just SE of the corner of Palmquist and 242 (Hogan) in Gresham. Just west of the High School. Behind the School bus lot on Hogan. When they were on still at night a few years ago, You could drive by the tower in the summer at 10PM and the Canadian station would over power it 1000 feet from the tower. Even before they cut power earlier in the evening, Canada was putting a hum and noise on it and distorted the signal. I live one mile east of the tower. Needless to say, Canada is more prominent at night when they are on. 30 watts from that site at night will not work for much. Wishing it won't make it happen. You can't shoot the signal away (directional pattern) without adding another tower. Is it worth it?
1230 does better at night than 1010. 1010 does better in the day than 1230.

Thanks for the tip! I did a search...turns out that Semoochie found the PSRA PSSA data for KMUZ a while ago... 1 watt! (most months)

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getimportletter_exh.cgi?import_let ter_id=5670

Unfortunately, the PSSA and PSRA letters on the FCC website are not accurate. Days after being issued, the FCC told broadcasters to disregard them due to calculation errors and to use their old PSSA and PSRA's.

You would need to file a request to the FCC to get a copy of previous PSSA and PSRA letters as they are not automatically posted to the correspondence folders on their website.

Did another search...Billboise posted this link:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-1076A1.doc

OMG ! the FCC made a mistake ???

> Didn't that stereo exciter go over to KBPS AM and
> is what they are using for their stereo now? I
> thought that is what I read some time ago.

I thought that too, but somebody from KBPS corrected me: The exciter that ended up at KBPS came from the 910 transmitter site.

Would be nice if 1010 adjusted the audio processor. the rf signal is already weak enough without limp audio. come on guys pump it up so we can hear you!

I listened today for a couple hours and, for the most part, liked the music they played. Some of the older ones aren't my style but they were OK. They sounded just fine in Gresham. Except for their local promos which sound real bad. I went into a bank at 4:30 and they still sounded good. I left the bank at 5:25 and they sounded distorted. I was near Fred Meyer on Burnside so I was less than a half mile from their tower. The reason they were distorted became apparent when I got about one mile from their tower. The Canadian station carrier was underneath them and caused the problem. I started hearing the Canadian station audio and when I was just south of MHCC, the audio from them was about the same level as 1010. I don't know what power level 1010 was at 5:45 but that is not good for night broadcasting for them.

So, whatever the PSRA/PSSA power *really* is, it appears that the signal is good for only about 1/2 mile from the tower.
Am I correct in assuming that they turned it off at 6:00 Pm ?
Next month, official sunrise is 7:15 Am and sunset is 5:30 Pm, so they gain a welcome hour and a quarter of "broadcast day" !

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/srsstime?dlat=45&mlat=29&slat=3.00&dlon=122&mlon=24&s lon=40.00&tzone=D

I wonder if they aren't using the first hour of PSSA and not the last, which is equal to nighttime authority.

1010 sounded spanish to me last evening.what happened??

Flashback.

back to english music, but th zdJ's microphone is still disconnected!!!
Fats DominoI'm Walking is now Adult Standard Middle of the zroad Easy ListeningHit??

...and "Jailhouse Rock" among others.

KBPS's Stereo Exciter came from 970, not 910 or 1520.

While listening today, I noticed that they are calling the radio station "Oregon's Community Radio," or something like that. It seems to suggest that the station's programming might eventually incorporate more than music. I thought that the music mix was pretty good; it sounded like a cross between Sunny and the short-lived "Super 62" KPOJ.

Yes, Alfredo, I also agree that the mix is pretty good. I have heard cuts that I have not heard for a long time. Listened in the car with my granddaughters today for a period of time and they even liked some of it and they are teen and subteen. The local ID promos sound pretty bad, however.

I noticed this morning (8AM hour) that they had the transmitter on but no programming. I also heard them later, about 4:20 and they were playing the music. When I came out and started listening at about 4:55, They were off and CBC was coming in very well. I was at about 181st and Glisan. When I got near the transmitter, they were still off. So, on Sunday, it appears that they turn off at 4:45.

They are sounding very weak and distorted in Hillsboro today (about 11:00Am)... what gives?

Update 11:30... Bingo! much better!

They must be tweaking the processing. On Sunday, the modulation seemed like it was low, but there was no distortion.

I'm 34, and some folks give me a hard time for listening to the old fogie music and AM stations. Too bad for them, heh?

Well, I *mostly* listen to Classical, Opera and some Folk Music and Jazz... I don't know if this "new stuff" on 1010 will ever catch on

"What signal are they protecting ? 1010 is a Canadian clear (hence the 50Kw blowtorch in Calgary, CBR). FCC PSRA PSSA rules here:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=47&PART=73&SECTION=99& YEAR=2005&TYPE=TEXT
If I am reading this correctly, it appears that the protected contour, by definition, stops at the border... I must be missing some fine point!"

Canada is covered under a separate agreement, the details of which I'm not finding.
http://www.treaty-accord.gc.ca/ViewTreaty.asp?Treaty_ID=101992

If it's like the FM Canadian agreement, protected contours are only protected in the country of origin, as you stated, but interfering contours must always be protected.

From 47CFR73.99:
"the FCC will calculate the periods of such
operation and the power to be used pursuant to the provisions of this
section and the protection requirements contained in applicable
international agreements."

So the "gotcha" is in a separate Canadian agreement, and not stated in 73.99 ...knew I was missing something...Thanks!

Edit add 12:40: Distortion is back again, big time... just turned it up to hear the Bell Sisters "Bermuda" ...terrible!

I know it's rude but I just can't hold back any longer: Finally, a station 60 year olds and their parents can listen to, together!

Na, my parents were die hard, country and western fans.

My dad, who is 64, only listens to classical music.

I notice Monday morning that they had the transmitter on but still no music or anything about 8:30AM, either. Same as Sunday. I don't know what their actual hours are. They seem to move around.

With a non-directional antenna, they aren't protecting anybody. Their assigned power cannot stop CBC from overriding them, either. Interesting, also, that in Gresham, you can't pick up 1520 at night, either.... the one in Milwaukie.

Our 1520 protects Oklahoma City, which used to come in like gangbusters in Gresham!

New call letters: KOOR. So now we have a station that says, "K-O-O-R" and another with "K-O-O-L"! I wonder if one of them will complain! Oh, something else: They have a positioner that says, "The Best Music of the '60s, '70s & More". I listened for awhile and heard few '60s and NO '70s songs but lots of '50s and some '40s, which leads me to believe, they're actually referring to the age of the performer.

sounded like spanish music again last evening!!!!

1010 isback now to english MORhits of the pastsuch as Runaround Sue,Elvis,Rock around the clock,etc.I hate to thinkwhat mght be considered Adult Standards in 2050???Rap?junk??

About what time in the evening have you observed the Spanish music?

not dure about last night.I did not look at clock.I will make note next time I hear it.butlast night was the 2nd time.I am not claiming that its every night.Justoccasionally.

6:40 PM TONITE:SPANSH MUSIC!
7:45 PMTONITE: DITTO!!
ANYBODY?

At about 4:45 I heard 1010 either go off the air or drastically reduce power, I can't tell from Hillsboro if they are still on the air. After 4:45, I mostly heard CBR. Right now, I am hearing a jumble of mixed signals... I can't tell for sure if there is any Spanish mixed in.

Odd that they dropped power/shut down at 4:45... it is now Feb. and the official sunset, according to the FCC link that I posted above, is now 5:30. they could have stayed up/on for 45 more minutes!

Perhaps 1010 is broadcasting some Spanish programming at very low power... are you very close to the transmitter site?

Update, 8:53: I am hearing French programming, so I would guess this is from CBR.

Some stations used to wait until the beginning of the week to make these changes.

They turned off today at about 5:40PM. Not reduced power, turned off. After the Everly Brothers.

What in the hell is going on???

If it's not a series of tests with KMUZ's off-air dummy load, then either CBR has some occasional Spanish language programming, or KXXT/1010 in Tolleson/Phoenix is pumping 250 non-directional watts nighttime into a certain receiver in the Northwest. I suspect chances of both latter examples are the same as a snowball in Phoenix in July...

I used to crack up at KXXT's IDs when they were the Air America station for Phoenix...KXXT tolleson-PHOENIX! They did have a better nighttime signal in Scottsdale than KPHX does, but the NW...probably not.

The only one saying they heard Spanish in the evening was 62kgw. I think, possibly, that he heard CBR and doesn't know the difference between French and Spanish.

No, I am quite sure I heard Soanish,amigo!!!how about some more reports, people???there is also a spanish 1010 in SFKIQI/ K-SAYare there any french stations in usa on any freq???maybe new orleans???

This is the program that I was hearing Sat. eve on 1010:

http://www.cbc.ca/programguide/program/index.jsp?program=A+Propos&network=CBC%20 Radio%20One&startDate=2008/02/02&startTime=21:00

In French, on CBR (CBC Radio 1)

Perhaps there is a pirate in your area that broadcasts Spanish programming when 1010 is off the air?

Another remote possibility, XEHL:

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=102073

50Kw day, 5Kw night, but their days are longer than ours, right now.

WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE????

Another guess, KTNQ in LA 50KW Day and night (1020Khz):

http://www.univision.com/content/channel.jhtml?chid=9450&schid=9745

Strong signal here right now... is 62 using an analog dial radio?

yes thekloss model one,with it'sinternal antenna.
analog dial- will check later for 1010 or whatever- have been listening to dupertuesday coverage on 750KkandaandAL hoststhis evening so fartonite1020 ktnq used to be called ten-Q!!!??

Yes! TeN-Q

Using a loop antenna, the direction of the Spanish music *seems* to be from the northwest...so I may be hearing KDYK (Bustos station) in Yakima. It is only 400 watts at night, however. I don't know enough Spanish to ID what I am really hearing on 1020!

Also some ESPN, perhaps KWIQ Moses lake.

checked briefly around 9:30, it1010 was spanish music again!!??

"I am quite sure I heard Soanish"
You got me there. I have never heard of "Soanish", so maybe you did hear that, I don't know.

The Trixter asked "WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE????"
Yes, that is a good question. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to when they turn on and off or anything to a specific schedule. One night they turn off at 5:40, last night they were still on at 7:30 but on lower power. About a mile from the transmitter it starts becoming unlistenable and when I got down to I-205 on I-84, it was pretty much gone with about two other stations fighting to break through on that frequency.
So, to repeat Trixter's question, "WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE????"

I forgot to check after the meeting so I can't verify 62's report at 9:30 or later. The French would come from Canada.

sonish is Spanish misspelled.sorry for the confusionI am quite sure what I heard was Spanish or Mexican music+announcementsin Spanish.NOTFrench!!!!RheMusic hadlots of harmonicas or accordianstoowhich I think is typical for Mexican Bands?!!!

62 Kgw--is the Kloss Model One that sensitive on AM? That sounds like even better performance than the Eton E5,the CC ,etc....are you using any other kind of external antenna?

not sure how to judge sensitiviry,but1010seems local the way it tunes when sdjusting the dial.itis not a whole lot of difference compaed with the other local AMstations.it was not touchytuning as I would expect a weak DX to be?not sure(Idon't remember) if I have recieved 1010CBR-calgary on that radio in the past or not?it has internal loop antenna-air coil,not ferrite.I recalll about a year ago some of us observed 1010 on at nightand reported that here on pdxradio, the other posts said it was supposed to be daytime only,so I am concludingsomeone there has trouble programming digital clock things!that could explain both types of issues??(i.e. wrong power thenafterX?PM, wrong music librarynow afterxX?PM???

Mexican stations have a minimum "daytime" hours of (something like) 6 am to 7 pm. So even if sunset's at 6 pm they stay on day power 'till 7 pm.

Well, they were on today until 7:40PM (when I couldn't get them at the airport. I checked again at 9:15-9:45 and they were off during that time for sure. Drove by transmitter building and there was nothing coming out on 1010.

There was a spanish station on 1020, however.

Interesting ! From Hillsboro I heard nothing from the station after 5:35Pm... last song I heard was "Just Walking in the Rain", then CBR (CBC radio 1) was very clear (no beat frequency from KOOR). Wonder what power they were running from 5:35 to 7:40?

Agree, much Spanish was heard on 1020 with my loop pointed Northeast. KDYK? The only ID that I could identify was "La Grande".

KOOR 1010 has been on since February. However, when I listen to them, I never hear any commercials. I can't see how Bustos could possibly be operating this station without losing money. How much longer will this last? What will be the fate of 1010--It flips to another Spanish format? It gets sold? It gets LMAed? It gets donated to a school/not-for-profit for a tax writeoff? It goes dark?


EDIT: Little Saigon Radio buys a block of airtime Saturday mornings on 1010. However, this is just a few hours out of the entire week.

Bustos making a donation? That's a joke.

Bustos is El Seņor Scrooge?

Maybe Jammin' 1010am?

...With DJFrrresh and the FrrreshConnection!!!

He has done Asian formats/Block programming in a couple other markets where his company has stations. In San Jose they have Vietnamese programming.

1010 is a horrible frequency...Ivan Kafoury had the most success with it...cause Ivan knew how to sell it...Valvoline co-op $.

Alfredo said, "I never hear any commercials. I can't see how Bustos could possibly be operating this station without losing money. "

I'll agree with you. However, this week I have heard "commercials" for Bullfrog and Hallmark. I use the term loosely. They were announcements in English by some some gal (office gal?) with an accent reading a 10-15 second ad which says programming is sponsored by..Hallmark... Mothers DAy is coming, buy cards and gifts at your nearby Hallmark store. Kinda like those little one liners the traffic reporters do for sponsorship.

Of course, that won't keep the electricity on.
And what is this "Exercise your freedom of voice...1010AM" that they keep running. I like most of the music but the in-betweens suck.

I don't get the "Exercise your freedom of voice" slogan. If a talk radio station, KBOO, or even KPSU used it, it would make sense. But, why use it on this format? The only explanation that I can come up with is that the music is a placeholder, and Bustos's long-range plans for the station are to turn it into a time-brokered operation that runs ethnic shows or talk shows (like the former 1010 The Voice).

Beatles on 1010!!!!?????
I'll get you in the end.z the
B side of She Loves you
Adult Hit???

1010 has the deep playlist that some people on this board have been yearning for. I thought that people wanted to hear the forgotten hits, B-sides, and album cuts.

No, only their own favorite B-sides and album cuts all MIXed up for "variety."

They have a deep playlist and rotate some of them. I like the B-sides and often never heard or heard for a long time cuts that no one plays. It makes for variety. I can do without the Big Band selections, not my cup of tea, but I can wait through them as opposed to stuff I don't care for on other stations that I have heard too much. Come on, who else has been playing Annette Funicello (I have heard two by her lately), early Frankie Avalon, Bobby Rydell, Roy Orbison (besides Pretty Woman), and more... Paris Sisters, Everly Brothers........
I am only speaking for me... but a welcome change from the rest of the dial. It may not last forever but it is here now.

I was being a little bit tongue-in-cheek. I actually like the music selection on 1010.

they need to add DJ's!!!! That would help, and add AM Stereo,like 1520 hadbefore!!!!I AM not really complaining about selections of the music.I like the variety!!!!!!!It seems strangee sometimea.Maybe they should segregate, put the rock on after 6 PM perhaps???

At 4 p.m. today, 1010 was back to Spanish.

It flipped on Monday at 4pm. In the 3pm hour it was in English, playing standards.

No bueno!

This Saturday, we'll see whether Little Saigon radio is still on 1010 AM....

I tuned in 1010, and I heard a family financial advice show in the 5-6 PM hour. This particular installment featured two Farmer's Insurance employees as the guests. After the show ended, there were at least five minutes of dead air, followed by the Windows bootup music and KOOR nostalgia music. Bill Gates now crashes radio stations!!

WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE?

Perhaps it is brokered now and only runs the "Radio Oregon" standards format during unsold time as someone suggested earlier.

Geez, I just took KYKN off my car radio and replaced it with KOOR on Monday. Then I went to listen to some good oldies that haven't been beaten to death--and got Spanish. So I reinsituted KYKN.

Three years ago, I got a short-lived job in Warren, Pennsylvania. As I was driving across Northern Ohio on I-90, I picked up a couple of Canadian stations in French. Now that was an unexpected experience. In Cleveland, I heard a local talk show about movies hosted by Les Roberts whose Milan Jacovich mysteries were some of my favorites. Then in Warren, PA, I heard Ron Norwood's Doo-Wop Express for the first time. Imagine my shock when I found out he was producing the show in Salem!!!

Don, did you honk when you drove by? I would have waved. I too had a short lived job over here...

Don't give up on 1010 yet! They were playing their mix of forgotten oldies this morning.

I'm a 1010 fan, too.

If they continue improving, those guys could be like a poor man's KLYC, or a rich man's Sunny 1550!

Herb

As I write this, 1010 has been transmitting a dead carrier since at least 7:45 PM. This is awful! Have the Bustos people fallen asleep at the wheel???

Friday July 4th at 4pm they were spanish. Sunday at 5pm back to Adult Standards.

They run a paid 3 hour Spanish program daily from 2-5PM. If you listen at 2PM, you will hear an announcement in English "The following is a paid 3-hour program". They also have some different languages on the weekend.
So, of course they would have had a Spanish program on Friday at 4PM. They have been for a while M-F.
I suppose 62 could go sell his own commercials, and then pay Bustos a fee and run his own program for an hour or whatever he buys on the station. I imagine most anyone could do that.

Money Talks.

> I suppose 62 could go sell his own commercials, and then pay Bustos a fee and run his own program
> for an hour or whatever he buys on the station.

I think he SHOULD!!! This is the way that 1010 operated when it was "1010 The Voice" in the late 1990s. A number of unique programs ran on 1010 when it was time brokered, such as "The Morning After Show" (a show about Portland area bands), "The Coach Stop" (a show--really an infomercial--about life coaching services), "The Constitutional Crusaders Show" (a patriot show with a focus on constitutional law), and some show about pro wrestling.

KOOR might have signed a contract with the Spanish program months ago. They might have been forced to honor the contract even though they changed format.