CBS might want to pay closer attention to the Voice tracking on 1075.
Tonight I couldn't hear the voicetracked jock because the music was over-powering his voice. I could hear a faint voice in the background but could not hear or understand what the jock was saying.
Is this the kind of effort that CBS is going to put into jammin?
Do they not care about the product they are putting out over the air?
Im sure the jock was doing some great talk breaks, if only I could hear what he was saying.
This is anohter reason why I'm against voice tracking, the muisc always over-powers the voice and you can't hear what the dj is saying.
The three talk breaks that I heard on Jammin 1075 tonight, not one of them were understandable.
None of this would be a problem if they had live talent.

I thought Jammin has a live dj at night. what happend to him?

What a waste of a great signal.

If they are going to more voice tracks, maybe they should just pick a name like "Jack" or "Charlie". They could call it "Britney", then when it sounds stupid and messed up, it would be in character.

If a station is going to have flaky automation, it definitely should be named after some famous drunk...meet Britney, Paris, Amy, and John! (The John station features 1970s MOR hits and Muppets Christmas carols during the holidays.)

It amazes me how Clueless CBS is in trying to run Jammin 1075.

So let me get this straight

1075 still has no afternoon show

They have a midday voice tracked woman who reads off liner cards and thats it.

They are now starting to voice track the night guy, and it sounds like shit!

The all new jammin 1075 now 100% voice tracked.

Its apparent that CBS is putting as much effort in Jammin as they did with MOVIN, WHICH IS NOTHING!

I feel bad for PK and the Crew, they didn't know what they were getting into moving over to CBS!

I'm sure CBS is just going at thier own pace with this thing. The Playhouse' budget alone probably exceeds that of the ENTIRE airstaff when it was MOVIN. Give it some time, I'm sure things won't be like this forever.

As for feeling sorry for PK, I'd get over that one as well. I'm sure this is more than ANY show could ask for when the station they are on is sold or blown out. I doubt PK thinks he has "gotten into" anything that he isn't happy about.

The Playhouse' budget alone probably exceeds that of the ENTIRE airstaff when it was MOVIN.

There was one yes ONE air staff on Movin tha-Frozen_ one, and thats it!


Thats the kind of effort CBS put into MOVIN, they did nothing to take the station off the ground. Absolutely nothing. They did a half-assed job with Movin, and so far they have been doing a half assed job with Jammin.
I believe CBS does not want to spend the money on Jammin, they want all the time, money, and effort into their sister station KUFO.
If you listen to KUFO, that station sounds immaculate! Live jocks on all dayparts, TONS and TONS of contests ect. ect. than you turn on Jammin and outside of mornings, the station sounds like shit, it really does. Im not trying to be a hater, im just being honest.
I have also noticed that the one night guy Stevie G who was live, is now gone. what happend to him?

I wonder if the decision to buy the Jammin' intellectual property was made from above the local Portland level, as well as budgets for airstaff, promotions, advertising, etc.

It's almost like the Portland young adult/teen audience is considered to be, by local radio, not worth a normal broadcast station.

It just doesn't seem to add up, from a business point of view. Since it is well known in advertising that both young adults and teens are a large part of the money spent in a market.

Saying "Jammin'" and "intellectual" in the same sentence is a stretch, but I"m outside the demo.

jammin does has live nite jock i herd him last nite he was doing live callers on air

"Jammin' [now] has a live night DJ. I heard him last night, while he was [taking] live [call-ins] on [the] air."

(told'ja......)

Randy--
Agreed. And I don't think you have to be outside the demo. Mentioning "Jammin'" in conjunction with "intellectual" is a colossal stretch regardless of your particular demographic........... ;o)

(Of course, the same thing could have been said about Movin'--probably was, even. And we all know [I hope!] how that one turned out!!)

There's nothing "intellectual" about the way CBS is running Jammin' 107-5...

I'm sure CBS is just going at thier own pace with this thing.


SOunds like CBS is taking their sweet ass time. Its money coming out of their pocket that they are LOSING by taking all this time to hire air talent, which should have been put together months ago.

Since it is well known in advertising that both young adults and teens are a large part of the money spent in a market.
True... however, regardless of what the newspapers like to say, it's very tough for them to get jobs right now with all the boomers looking for "retirement jobs" and people in their 30s through 50s looking for whatever they can get.
No jobs = no direct disposable income. Sure, some might get 5-10 bucks allowance or birthday money or whatever, but that's nothing.
And even for those with jobs, higher gas prices = less disposable income (this holds true for everyone, not just teens and young adults).
This is assuming they're not trying to get a job to cover basic food necessities.

You know I have heard more problems like this, with voice tracked audio buried by the music. There can be several reasons for this, but with proper engineering and knowledge of software settings, this can be corrected. But lot of attention has to be paid to the studio that the tracks are sent from . Or if the tracks are comming in off the net from any random source studio. This is one of the reasons a number of years ago, programming people banned instrumental talk overs in favor of cold breaks IMO. It was to difficult for engineers to set up the audio levels or AGC levels to emulate a proper live announce talk over.

I have heard this on Sirius more than once ! We used to have a problem with this sort of thing on the Wizard/prophet automation I used for many years, also the Scott/Demark as well. As a VTer I had a few recording tricks that I had some control over the "in studio" voice tracking. I learned which audio cards to use that had a proper setting for instrumental talk overs, actually there were 2 of the 3 audio cards that worked best. I placed the Voice track in places twice an hour other than where they were directed to be so that the proper audio card would be used for the talk over.

This technique was really rather pathetic as our engineer really didnt understand the problem or if he did, didnt care or didnt have the resources to fix it. It was on the Wizard Automation and I was allowed to reposition the VT, so it all worked out for several years.

I would think that only a handful of boomers(war babies)are looking for "retirement jobs". The vast majority of us are still in the regular work force and intend to be so for quite some time.

Hey Newflyer! I see what you're saying, but there are many teens with jobs, which equal to more than 5-10 bucks a week allowance. Not that allowance is the only money a teen spends. I see teens working every day, some places seem to be 70% Teen staffed. And, at least where I've been working, it's about half 20-30 year olds running the place. These are people making 25,000-32,000 per year.

Portland is market 23... and in Tampa, market 19, CBS runs WILD, which is a very well run rhythmic top 40, they have an excellent PD and are rated top 5. Why the difference here?

Wasn't the old Jammin' #1 18-34 for 20-something books in a row, until the change of ownership?

As Judge Judy says, it just doesn't make sense! And, if it doesn't make sense...

I know I was #1 18-34 EVERY book I had for 4 and a half years at Jammin at nights from 2001-2002 and afternoons 2002-2005. I collected bonuses that Rose City contractually didn't even have to pay me. Not all of those 18-24 numbers were teenagers without jobs.

"Since it is well known in advertising that both young adults and teens are a large part of the money spent in a market."

I read this quote from newflyer, and despite everyone's seeming acceptance of it as true, decided to check it out. (It looked wrong to me.)I simply googled "spending by demographic" and got annual figures from the Federal Gov.

According to the U.S. Census figures, not only do under 25's have the lowest income of any demo group, they spend the overwhelming majority of that money on food, housing, utilities and car expenses. Very little disposable income.

Income before Taxes (2006):

Under 25 = 25K
25-34 = 57K
35-44 = 75.6K
45-54 = 77K
55-64 = 64.4K
65-74 = 46K
75+ = 29.5K

Under 25 is also the smallest demographic unit of those listed above.

So let's review:
Teens and 18-24's are factually:

The smallest measured demographic group
Have the lowest pre-tax and post-tax income
spend almost all of it on neccesities
Have a savings rate of aprox $350 per year each

[Opinion] They are more likely to be deeply involved in new media, whether video games, on-line peer to peer usage, texting, iPoding, etc. Radio is a tertiary or sub-tertiary medium for them.

Teen and 18-24 radio time buys are a very small sector of the radio ad market. (last figures I saw were under 10%, but that was a while ago.)

Youth radio has become a high risk, low return proposition. It isn't surprising that it gets, and will continue to get, a very small piece of any corporate cluster's talent and marketing budgets.

Sorry to buzzkill your thread with facts, but truthiness is just a comedy concept....(and a hallmark of this board.)

I don't think CBS has voice tracking, at least that's what I was told by several of their PD's when I was trying to work for them coming from clear channel. Maybe, the jock just doesn't know what they are doing or was doing the show without headphones on or sumthing?????

The urban youth market is a rapidly evolving multicultural market of vital importance to marketers.

The urban youth market potentially includes the more than 40 million 12- to 24-year-olds living in metropolitan areas of the United States. This fast-growing market is important in its own right because of the increasing purchasing power of the teens and young adults who are part of the market.

Even more important is the fact that the urban youth market is driven by trendsetters who have a major impact on the consumer preferences of teens and young adults in the general market in the United States and worldwide.

The influence of the urban youth market now extends across a broad range of industries, including apparel, automotive, footwear, beverages, consumer electronics, and all facets of the entertainment industry.

Companies entering the urban youth market today will be better prepared to compete in the mainstream market of tomorrow.

Igor - Do you have a source for your material??? It doesn't seem like your writing style!!

(In fact, it reads remarkably -- OK exactly -- like the blub trying to SELL a youth marketing report from marketresearch.com)

It's not, just various bits I found with a simple Google search!

Check this one...

Marketers are constantly trying to get a piece of young adults’ pocketbook, and for good reasons.
In 2006, there are 68.9 million individuals aged 18-34, representing 23.1% of the total U.S.
population—a sizeable and diverse group.

Two distinct groups of young adults—18-24s and 25-34s—show noteworthy differences when it
comes to spending and use of free time. Young adults aged 18-24 are still pursuing an education,
may be living with their parents, have more discretionary income, enjoy shopping as a social
activity, and rely more and more on the Internet for communication. Adults aged 25-34 are starting
careers, buying homes, raising children, and have less leisure time.

The youngest adults are exploring the world and trying to find their place in it, and part of this
means keeping up with the latest fashions and trends. The older adults in this group, in contrast, are beginning to shift their focus to family life and careers, and more of their discretionary spending and leisure time is geared toward their families.


I mean, personally, I think it's easy to discredit most any kind of person or demo. Old people, they're the ones who don't buy anything, right? Radio shouldn't serve them. Young people, not much use, unless you're selling skateboard oil, right?

I just believe the youth market is super important, and that's the point I'm making. Your opinion is cool too!

don't think CBS has voice tracking, at least that's what I was told by several of their PD's when I was trying to work for them coming from clear channel. Maybe, the jock just doesn't know what they are doing or was doing the show without headphones on or sumthing?????

Are you really that dumb 103103?? YES CBS HAS VOICE TRACKING and yes they are voice tracking at Jammin! And Yes it sounds like SHIT!

I will tell you what ! This baby boomer simply isnt going to retire until age 70 if at all possible. As long as the grey matter still works and I can get my carcass out of bed every morning I am staying on the gravy train !

And after this last week and the weeks to come , I am so sure, the stock portion of my retirement needs to have much more time 'in' to heal itself...God ! Makes 13 more years of work look pretty likely to this Child !

Jammin and Z100 are getting beat on a lot on the board. Times are changing. Do we all really expect Rome to be built in a day? Society is kind of funny right now. We all expect things to be immediate and forget that within a corporate culture things move a bit slower than we would like.

You can't move slow in radio, there is money to be made and Ratings to win!

Well, generally, when you're putting on a show. You have it together when the curtain goes up!

Does anyone know about the old IBM corporate culture. As fast as you want to move you can't because you have how many people approving your decisions? I'm not making excuses for what some are calling crappy radio I'm just offering an explanation as to why things seem to be getting better so slowwwwwly. lol

"Come on kids; let's put on a show! but let's ease into it."

somewhere along the line apparently it has been forgotten that this is SHOW BIZ.

I agree totally with Egor...

If you dont have the show together when you pull the curtain, you deserve what you get. which would be a mediocre dissinterested response.

Besides the fact that Jammin desperately needs more live air talent, I still think the music is hard to take when they play the same 5 songs over and over and over. 95.5 was never this bad with the repetition. I also don't think they are geting the new music on quick enough.

i agree

Buns--

When did Jammin' ever start playing music?? ;o)

Oh no, If Fresh is agreeing with me than
HOUSTON, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM!